Canada and Illegal Immigration

http://www.visabureau.com/media/3993364/canada-visa-application.jpgI am continually amazed at the number of Canadians who rail against anyone in the US who wants illegal immigration stopped. Don’t get me wrong – I have several dear friends who are Canadian, but they just don’t GET the scope of the problem we face.

Let’s take a quick look at Canadian immigration law.

Canada is actually very picky about who they let immigrate to their country. In most cases, an applicant must be a skilled worker with a job offer on the table, an entrepreneur or business person with $800,000 to invest, or to have been already nominated by a province that wants them to move there (usually because there is a job waiting for them already that they are particularly qualified for).

Applicants are considered for residency based on their ability to support themselves (and their families, if applicable) financially without assistance from the government. They also have to pass a language proficiency test. Someone who is a permanent resident can sponsor family members, but they have to support those family members. If not, and the government ends up supporting anyone who was being sponsored, the resident will be blocked from sponsoring any more family members until they pay the government back.

Canadians will often point to the fact that their government encourages immigration. That’s easy to do when the people you are welcoming are expected to support themselves and cause no burden to the taxpayers.

While there are no concrete figures available for illegal immigration to Canada, estimates range from 35,000 to 120,000. Many of these are persons whose ‘refugee claim’ was rejected. In response to the number of people trying to immigrate on false claims of being refugees, including large numbers from India, the Czech Republic, and more recently Mexico, Canada has put strict visa requirements in place to stem the tide. Polls of the Canadian public show an overwhelming support for the idea of finding and deporting these illegal aliens. However, the Canadian government is slow to take action, perhaps because even 120,000 is a drop in the bucket spread out over the nation.

To put this in perspective, Fulton County in Georgia (part of the greater Atlanta area) has an estimated 125,000 illegal aliens. That’s more illegals in ONE COUNTY than in the entire country of Canada. The entire state of Georgia (considered one of the fastest growing centers for illegal aliens after Texas) holds an estimated 490,000 illegals.

In Canada, the estimated cost of supporting a refugee who is in the process of qualifying for legal immigration status is between $10,000 and $12,000 for a whole year. In the US, the cost of the birth of one ‘anchor baby’ is between $8,000 and $16,000. That’s just in the first week of life, and the child gets automatic citizenship.To keep an illegal alien in a detention facility for one year costs at least $32,000.

At Parkland Memorial Hospital in Dallas, Texas, 70% of the babies born are the product of illegal parents – and the average patient is a 25 year old illegal alien having her second anchor baby. The US will normally not deport the mother of a US citizen, so she can generally stay and receive benefits such as housing and food assistance, medical care and other benefits at the government/tax-payers’ expense.

Overall, the US currently holds an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants. This is a figure obtained by counting methods that primarily depend on illegals admitting to be illegal to census takers and on numbers obtained from law enforcement organizations at border points. The real number is likely to be closer to 20 million at least.

In Canada, the entire country receives government supplied healthcare for just $183 billion per year, public schooling tips the scale at around $40 billion for pre-college education and welfare costs are a scant $8 billion (excluding disability cases).(Some figures are a few years old.)

In the United States, the government spends a conservative estimate of $113 billion a year just on illegal immigrants alone for healthcare, pre-K through 12th grade education and welfare – and that doesn’t count the costs absorbed by state governments, hospitals along the border, and incarceration costs for criminals we are not allowed to deport because they might be killed by the drug cartels they worked for. (Figures again are a few years old.)

So the US spends on illegal immigrants yearly almost half of what Canada spends on their entire population for ‘basic services’.

What would happen if Canada had an influx of foreign persons they were suddenly forced to feed, house, medicate and educate? You guessed it. Their education system would collapse. Their health care system would collapse. Their prison system would collapse.

My Canadian friends, I love you – but seriously. Your understanding of immigration in the US is miniscule, and you always make the mistake of comparing it to immigration in Canada. If the United States magically disappeared today, and you suddenly shared a border with Mexico, your government and citizens would have a rude awakening.

You would scramble to put in place measures to prevent illegal immigration. You would insist on a stringent identification requirements. You would require aliens to meet certain qualifications before making them citizens.

What you would NOT do is welcome them with open arms, refuse to deport them and freely hand them everything they wanted. You couldn’t afford to. Your country would go broke inside three months.

I’ve listened politely as Canadians I know deride the US for our debt, our failure to provide health care to our citizens, and our growing insistence that only US citizens should have US citizen rights and benefits. When the issue of illegal immigration comes up, it invariably degenerates into accusations that the US is full of hateful racist bigots who want to keep minorities in their place and deny them ‘rights’.

Let me be clear. I am not against immigration. In fact, I’d love to see immigration the way the Canadians do it – mandating that an immigrant must follow proper channels, pass a language proficiency test, provide a needed skill for the job sector, have employment lined up, and be able to support themselves and their families financially. However, when the US tries to enforce such mandates, we are vilified.

My Canadian friends, again, I love you – but seriously. You don’t have a clue. Being against illegal immigration isn’t racist. Being against illegal immigration isn’t discrimination against minorities. Being against illegal immigration is being against something illegal, that hurts our entire country more every single day that we allow it.

In my next post, we’ll look at how stopping illegal immigration could potentially fix the US economy. Until then, Grace out.

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10 Comments on “Canada and Illegal Immigration”

  1. Michael says:

    This is interesting to read. I always knew that Toronto, for example, had a very successful multi cultural society, but did not know that they were so strict with regard to their immigration policies. When I think of the most successful multi cultural societies, they all have very selective immigration policies – Singapore, Hong Kong, Canada, Qatar, Malaysia, Dubai.

  2. redmetta says:

    I believe that Canada is part of the British Commonwealth, an association of former countries that were at one time members of the British empire. Canada tends to follow Britain’s general policies, and is always a staunch ally of British foreign policy discisions. In this regard, I notice a certain antagonism between Americans and Canadians (see Southpark), and I suspect it is reciprocated. Canada has similar immigration rules to the UK, probably to distinguish itself from the USA. This is an historical matter, where Canada remained loyal to Britain (in 1776), whilst the American colonies rebelled, etc. Then, in 1812, the USA declared war on Britain for economic reasons, (Britain controlled the seas and limited American trade), and for the British support of Indian resistance to American expansion. US troops attacked British forces in Canada, were defeatd and pshed back into the US, suffering a number of defeats inflicted by a small British force, which even managed to burn down the White House. This force was eventually defeated at the Battle of New Orleons (1814).

    Racism, xenophobia and prejudice has a history. Today, inthe postmodern state, situations are presented as if they have no history and have just appeared out of nowhere. Immigration policy is purely arbitrary and is designed to keep people apart, and to prevent any meaningful relationship, other than an asymmetric, exploitative commercial interaction. So-called’illegal’ immigrants have no protection under the law, and so are very easily exploited in a manner that a legal worker is not. Therefore, the work power extracted from the illegal immigrant is not paid for in the way that it is for a legal woker. Illegal work power is brought for a very small amount of money (laughingly termed ‘wages’), but the work power that is extracted through labour, is worth a phenomenal economic amount, which benefits the receiving country to an immeasurable degree. The ability to extract labour in this sense is only one step up from the outlawed institutional of slavery – whereby the maximum labour power is extracted for no wages, and the slave – treated as a reproducing machine – is only given enough sustainance to retain a basic physical existence, which is not considered ‘human’ in principle.

    I think one of the greatest myths about ‘iiegal’ immigration is that migrants arrive without following the law, and then ‘do nothing’ relevant to the country they enter. This ignores the worth of their exploited labour power. It is actually impossible to do ‘nothing’ if one wants to eat and have a roof over-head. The US welfare systems appear virtually non-existent compared to its (Canadian) and European counter-parts. Migrants ‘migrant’ from economically deprived geographical areas, to other geographical areas that are wealthy. America and Britain became wealthy through the institution of slavery, and the ruthless exploitation of non-European colonies. Wealth has a history, it is not ‘just present’ due to some kind of mistaken and superior moral presence, but is rather accumulated through ruthless activities. In the past, Europeans spread uninvited around the globe and took, over centuries, the wealth now enjoyed by Western Europe, Canada and the USA. Now that travel has developed to the point that migrants from previously exploited countries can travel to the exploiter countries, obviously it is viewed as a ‘problem’ by these countries, because they do not want to share or give up the wealth they have amassed for themselves. With regard to illegal immigrants receiving medical care, I would think that the cost of the assistance should be off-set against the actual worth of the exploited labour they have provided, for which they have received a pittance. Thank you for a thought provoking article.

    • mandyf says:

      Must be a Brit. Anyone that has been in the US a decent amount of time knows that illegals are sucking off the American economy with their food vouchers, medical, education, housing, legal and pretty much everything else all because they managed to squirt out a kid in US territory. It’s BS. They do not contribute to the economy, and they just keep having more and more kids to stay longer.

      There is a way to get paid a decent wage after coming into the US – and it begins with signing the guest book on the way in! Illegals are – well illegal. They deserve no breaks. They do not get my pity. Life sucks, get a helmet. If they are so downtrodden, take them into your country, house, clothe, feed, educate and offer all essential services to them just as we do and see how many months it takes before the “British Empire” cracks.

      The thing to remember is illegal is breaking the law. When you break the law you lose your rights. End of story.

      • redmetta says:

        The politics of intolereance is very interesting, specifically due to the fact that the intended recipient is arbitratily selected, and then the intolereance justified through a retro-active ‘logic’ tht is really a product of interlaised self-hatred, to the extent that the target becomes conceptually representative of what it means ‘not to belong’. Laws change – what is allowed today may not be allowed tomorrow, and vice versa.

      • Grace Alexander says:

        redmetta, you’ve jumped the shark. Intolerance of illegals is not self hatred, nor arbitrary. And the funny thing is that NO OTHER civilized country has as lax of immigrations laws as the US. I, as a self sufficient individual able to support myself and my family and pay taxes, would not be welcome in England, Ireland, Germany or France as an immigrant.

      • redmetta says:

        Thank you for your reply, your participation is very much appreciated.

  3. Grace Alexander says:

    It’s the Commonwealth of Nations, now, and more of a tiny UN composed of all former British possessions except for two.

    I was with you until you commented about exploited labor and the idea that our welfare system does not allow free food, housing and medical care to non-workers. THAT is the myth, I’m afraid – that somehow these illegal immigrants provide a greater service to our country than they cost us. That is not the case. In my next post I will discuss how the enforcement of immigration law and the abolition of the ‘anchor baby’ could virtually fix a lot of the issues our struggling welfare and health system faces.

    I am self employed, pay an insane amount in taxes, and am practically uninsurable. The taxes I pay are in large part earmarked for my future medical care – but with the cost of inflation and the mishandling of funds by my government, the odds of that money ever being available to me or worth anything is miniscule. It could be argued that I am exploited. In the meantime I am expected to either lie down and die or be crushed under unpayable debt if I need medical care.

    A huge amount of illegal aliens are the aforementioned women with anchor babies, living on welfare, receiving free health care, and working not at all, – where is their exploitation? You don’t understand the US welfare system very well… the government does subsidize these women, and the more babies they have, the more they get. There is no incentive to stop breeding or to get a job when each subsequent child extends their benefits.

    The damage that illegal immigrants do to our country’s infrastructure is in no way offset by their ‘labor’. There is this misconception that they will do “jobs Americans scorn” – believe me, in this economy there are plenty of Americans who would love to have many of these jobs, but companies would rather hire illegals illegally and pay them lower wages – most of which goes back to Mexico and is not spent here, and on which no taxes are paid.

    I’m sorry, but if a person is here illegally, I have no sympathy for their so-called “exploitation”.

    • redmetta says:

      Thank you for your frank and heartfelt viewpoints. Crminality is an interesting topic with regards to immigration. The problem with this is that all immigrants (legal, or otherwise), are automatically assumed to be ‘criminals’ themselves. It can not be true, by any stretch of the imagination, that all ‘illegal’ immigrants are criminals, even if some people termed ‘illegal immigrants’ actually commit crime. The majority of crime committed in the USA, is by US citizens that are not immigrants, at least in any realistic sense of the term. We are, of course, products of our respective cultures, and the historical psychology associated with them. Very few manage to break out of these structures. Good luck with your quest.

  4. Grace Alexander says:

    No, no no. You’re missing the point. All illegals ARE criminals – they have committed the CRIME of entering this country illegally. NOT ALL, but many go on to commit additional crimes (identity theft, obtaining housing, medical care, even jobs under false credentials; and in some cases harder crime such as murder, rape, etc).

    With a population of the US somewhere around 310 million, and the illegal population at somewhere between 12 and 20 million, of COURSE more crimes will be committed by US citizens than by illegals by numbers. The percentages, however, skew, particularly in areas with a high concentration of illegals.

    In fact, over 25% of today’s federal prison population is made up of illegal aliens, most of which have been incarcerated for crimes in ADDITION to the initial crime of illegal entry. In some areas of the country, 12% of felonies, 25% of burglaries and 34% of thefts are committed by illegal aliens.

    • redmetta says:

      Thank you for your viewpoint – good look in your quest to convince others, and thank you for sharing your thoughts.


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